Patrick O'Brien Sr. - Obituary

Helene, from Terrace, sent me the newspaper - The Omineca Herald, Friday, August 24, 1923

The Late P. O’Brien

Patrick O’Brien was suddenly taken ill, suffering from pneumonia and internal complications, and was removed from his home to the Hazelton Hospital, where he expired on Sunday.  The remains were shipped to Usk and the funeral took place at Kitsumkalum Cemetery on Monday.  The Rev T J Marsh, rural dean, officiating.  A number of the Terrace people accompanied the remains to the cemetery and a great number of Usk and Pacific residents were present at the committal ceremony.  The numerous floral tributes showing the esteem in which he was held.  The late Mr. O’Brien held the position of section foreman for many years and was always at the forefront as a member of the community, being a school trustee and taking great interest in all matters in which the welfare of the children was concerned.  He leaves to mourn his loss a widow and three children, to whom the sympathy of the entire community of Usk has gone out. 

So, Grandma must have been pregnant with Pat when he died as it says she is left with 3 children - that would be Uncle Bill, Father, and Bessie.  He died August 19, 1923...........now to find Uncle Pat's birth date.  

 

Change of name document and photo of Grandfather Holmes' regiment in WWI

James Lonville Holmes is in the front row, sitting, 2nd from left.  Not super clear but it does say which Squadron he was attached to and one day I can maybe find a list of people killed in WWI and his name might be on it. 

Here is a list of Grandma's marriages:

James Lonville Holmes:  Married Jan 11, 1911 - died ?
Patrick Con O'Brien:       Married 1916 - died 1921
Joseph Halbert:                Married Sept 8, 1924 - divorced in 1926 or 1927
Lee Bethurem:                 Married 1927 or 1928 - died 1947 or 1948
Wilf Brule:                       Married ?  - he was still alive when she died in 1967


Cheerio,

My Father's Mystery father......and family.....

Just a quick post while I still have this info clearly in my head.

So, all my life I remember my father saying that he knew nothing about his father.  He said that he'd once heard he'd been shot as a deserter in the first world war but it might have just been a rumour.  Anyway, I knew his name was William Longvil Holmes and grandma had two children with him - William and my dad, James.  Father was born September 15, 1914 and I had no idea when Uncle Bill was born.

My grandmother, Alice Maud Alger, was married 5 times in her life......Holmes being the first.

After Holmes she married Patrick O'Brien, who is the man my dad considered his father.  One time when I was listing the family tree in Zolynne's baby book, I asked him for the name of his father and he said 'Patrick O'Brien' - no, I said, your REAL father.  'I consider Patrick O'Brien my real father'.  Eventually he gave me Holmes' name. 

Just a quick aside.  Father was born James Edward Holmes but when Grandma married O'Brien, both he and Bill used O'Brien as their last names.  Bill changed his back to Holmes when he went into WWII, I believe.  Father never did.  We were registered as O'Brien at birth but in 1954, Father found out he couldn't legally use 'O'Brien' as his name unless he legally changed it.......which he did.......along with all of our names.  I have the paper somewhere showing all of us going from 'Holmes' to 'O'Brien' and eventually will scan and post it. 

OK, no info on Holmes.  Then I got an email from Helene, in Terrace, with a photo of Grandpa, Grandma, Uncle Bil and Father - had never seen it before.  She received it years ago from the husband of one of Uncle Bill's daughters.  I've visited Helene a couple of times as she's compiling and writing about the history of Usk, where my family lived when I was born.........super interesting talking to her.  Anyway, she also sent a website on the history of the Terrace/Usk/Amesbury area and I was amazed at how much information there was!  I wrote to the fellow who owns it to thank him and also asked about my grandfather and how I might find him.  He gave me an armed forces website and I was off.  Looked and looked and couldn't find him and then I just looked under the name 'Holmes', with no first names and there he was!  His bloody name was JAMES Lonville Holmes!  I found his army papers, signed November 28th, 1914.  The picture Helene sent me must have been taken not long after he signed up and got his uniform as father was just a tiny baby in it.  My grandmother was only 18 at the time - she was born in 1896.  Helene also found their marriage certificate - 1911.  Makes me wonder if I have the date of Grandma's birth wrong..........  I just found the 'Alger Family History' - which I've had for years and couldn't remember where it was - and Grandma (Alice Maud Alger) was born February 23, 1894 - that makes more sense - she would have been 17 when she married, not 15. 

Ok, you following so far?  At the beginning of 1915, father was 4 months old and, presumably, my grandfather was off to war.  They were living in Brandon, Manitoba, where my father was born.

 

My father's half-sister (and favourite) was Bessie O'Brien and she was born May 9, 1918 and her brother, Patrick Vernon, was born in August, 1921.  

(Italics are from the Alger Family History)

 

 I cannot find any record of my grandfather's death - or even of his birth, actually.  The army papers show he was born in Manitoba but I can't read the name of the town.  I went to the Manitoba vital statistics site and looked up all with the last name 'Holmes' who were born in 1889 and he's not there!  My grandfather was born April 13, 1889.  Eighty-six years later, on that day, our youngest daughter, Dana was born! 

So that's it for this time...........

cheerio,

This winter in Yuma I hope to spend some time on research and maybe

My Grandparents' official birth records.....

Well, this is really interesting- in the history mother wrote, she notes her father, my grandfather, Joseph McLaren, was born on February 8, 1878.  Now, when I read that, I seemed to remember that Grandma was older than Grandpa - and if he was born in February, 1878 and she in July, 1878, that wouldn't be the case.

So, a couple of weeks ago, while messaging on Facebook with Stefan's cousin, she gave me a website where Scottish births can be found.  I paid 7 pounds and joined and got 30 credits.  It takes 6 credits to look up someone and view their birth record.  Today I thought I'd find Grandpa's.  I searched from 1877 to 1882, in Fifeshire and didn't come up with Grandpa but did see Barney Hamilton McLaren - who I knew must be Grandpa's brother.  I knew this because my mother's middle name was Hamilton.  We all knew about Uncle Barney but always thought it was a nickname - from Bernard.  Nope - not so.  Anyway, back I went and researched and, sure enough, found a Joseph but with the last name Maclaren!  (an 'a' and no capital 'L')  I paid the extra credits to actually view the register (it's one credit for the initial search and then 5 to view the record) and, sure enough..... February 8th - it's Grandpa!  I wonder if I can paste the birth records in here:  Nope, didn't work.  I'll try something else...........didn't work - I'm sending it to Zolynne to see if she can doctor it so I can place it here.

Well, what can I tell you - that kid of ours is a genius!  

So - Grandpa was born February 8, 1880, 11:30 p.m., in Moonzie, Fifeshire, Scotland.  His father's name was also Joseph and his mother's name was Margaret - her maiden name was Hamilton.  My mother's name was Margaret Hamilton McLaren.  My great-grandfather and great-grandmother were married January 20, 1872 in Ceres, Scotland........about 2 miles from Cupar, which is where mother always said her dad was born.  His birthplace, Moonzie, is about 6 miles or so from Cupar.  Neither of Grandpa's parents could write - both places are marked with an 'X'.  Great-Grandfather's work was 'farm servant'. 

My grandmother, Elizabeth Millar (McLaren) was born July 13, 1878 at Cowdenfoot, Dalkeith, Scotland at 1:15 a.m.  Her father, Alexander Millar was a coal miner and signed the birth register. Her mother's name was Fanny Sauers (Millar) and there is no indication that she did or didn't sign the register.  My great-grandparents were married May 12, 1876 in Dalkeith, Scotland.

I am leaving the history that mother wrote, as she wrote it........even though the birth places were incorrect.  

So, that's it for today.

cheerio,